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A look at the current state of enterprise security solutions, including new products, features and industry reporting. Hosted by Paul Asadoorian and John Strand.
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AppSec, Shopify-Style; State of Mobile Security; the News - Kern Smith, Andrew Dunbar - ESW #470
03/08/2026 Durata: 01h37minInterview with Andrew Dunbar, CISO at Shopify After 13 years at Shopify, Andrew has some valuable insights to share on application security. In this episode, we discuss how AI has changed application security processes where bug bounty now fits in a post-Mythos, post-AI harness world. Andrew's Resources: https://shopify.engineering/building-an-agentic-harness-that-outlasts-the-model Interview with Kern Smith Kern Smith, VP of Global Solutions at Zimperium, joins us to talk about the state of mobile security. This was a great conversation, talking about the history of mobile devices in the enterprise and how challenging securing mobile apps is in the age of vibe-coding. Segment Resources https://zimperium.com/resources/new-zimperium-research-reveals-that-ai-based-attacks-are-targeting-and-succeeding-on-mobile Global Mobile Threat Report 2026 Enterprise Security News Finally, in the enterprise security news, Pre-black hat funding goes nuts we have 4 new cybersecurity unicorns! Cyera acquires Oasis for o
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Exploring AI Network Protocols; Vulnerability Truths and Guarantees; and the News - Jeremiah Grossman, O'Shea Bowens - ESW #469
27/07/2026 Durata: 01h50minSegment 1 - Interview with O'Shea Bowens What do we really know about "AI Network Protocols"? Network security is about to get popular all over again. Generative AI caused a disruptive explosion across all of tech and every company's roadmap. The move from chatbots to AI agents doubled down on that disruption. Now agents need to talk to each other? Boom: we have MCP. A2A. Universal Commerce Protocol. General purpose and specialized protocols for agent communication. What does this look like from the network perspective, though? O'Shea Bowen joins us to answer this question, and he thinks the results are interesting enough to spark a resurgence of interest in network security tooling. Segment Resources: https://www.nsa.gov/Portals/75/documents/Cybersecurity/CSIMCPSECURITY.pdf?ver=bmgiSbNQLP6Z_GiWtRt6bg%3D%3D https://labs.cloudsecurityalliance.org/research/csa-research-note-mcp-security-crisis-20260504-csa-styled/ https://cyberone.security/blog/building-an-ai-security-strategy-without-stalling-business-grow
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AI Security at Scale, CMMC phase II paused, and the Weekly Enterprise News - Keith Hollender - ESW #468
20/07/2026 Durata: 01h42minInterview with Keith Hollender, CEO and Co-Founder of Arcova Why AI Security Is Becoming an Execution Problem, Not Just a Governance Problem As enterprises move from AI experimentation to adoption at scale, security leaders are under pressure to enable innovation without introducing unmanaged risk. The challenge is no longer whether organizations should pursue AI, but how they can govern it, secure it, and operationalize it in ways that stand up to real-world business and threat conditions. In this conversation, Keith Hollender discusses what Arcova is seeing across enterprise environments as organizations work to connect cybersecurity, AI governance, resilience, and broader transformation priorities. He explores where companies are getting stuck, why traditional siloed approaches are falling short, and what it takes to move from strategy decks to secure execution. Keith also shares how Arcova's practitioner-led, relationship-driven model helps organizations turn complexity into clarity by embedding with clie
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Hungry? We talk Smoked Meat, Poutine, and Bagel - also, Identiverse Interviews! - John Pritchard, Cassie Christensen, Jaime Lewis-Gross, François Proulx, Kim Brown - ESW #467
13/07/2026 Durata: 01h38minInterview with François Proulx from Boost Security Software Supply Chain Security: Build Pipeline (CI/CD) Exploitation Boost Security is the creator of some very popular build pipeline security tools, like Bagel and Poutine. Today, we discuss their latest tool, Smoked Meat. They describe it as "Like Metasploit, but for CI/CD pipelines". Segment Resources: Smoked Meat announcement Smoked Meat github Smoked Meat demo with Guillaume and François Identiverse Interview with Dr. John Prichard from Radiant Logic The Three Identity Problem: Surviving Identity Security's Chaotic Era Identity security has entered its chaotic era. Human, non-human, and agentic AI identities no longer just coexist. They form an uncontrolled inheritance chain in which a human creates an agent, the agent spins up service principals, OAuth grants, and role assignments, and that whole chain keeps running long after the human changes roles or leaves. Most of these chains are being spawned by business users on low-code and enterprise AI plat
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Mastering agent permissions and Identiverse interviews - Howard Ting, Ajay Gupta, Sandy Bird, Amir Ofek - ESW #466
06/07/2026 Durata: 01h17minInterview with Sandy Bird, co-founder of Sonrai Security In this week's interview, we kick off the conversation with how Sonrai's expertise in securing cloud identity permissions had the company well placed to address the explosion of AI agents and the clear risks they represented. On the surface, this looks like a cloud/hyperscaler permissions challenge, but it isn't that simple. As agents like Claude Code, Codex, and Hermes are connected to enterprise cloud agents, the risk spreads outside VPCs and onto endpoints. Check out the episode to learn more about some of the most common risks Sandy finds and how Sonrai goes about addressing them. This segment is sponsored by Sonrai Security. Visit https://securityweekly.com/sonrai to learn more about them! Segment Resources AWS Bedrock agent permissions: what you need to lock down before you go live Making Enterprise AI Agents Accountable with Amir Ofek, CEO and Co-Founder of aizome Organizations looking to unlock the power of Enterprise AI Agents, and in a cont
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Fixing pentesting, Meta is destroying its engineering org, the weekly news - Adriel Desautels - ESW #465
29/06/2026 Durata: 01h40minInterview with Adriel Desautels - the pentest is broken Adriel joins us for a discussion on the state of penetration testing, why it hasn't done much to help security teams over the last 20 years, and why AI won't save it. Segment Resources: https://hbr.org/2026/04/boards-are-falling-short-on-cybersecurity https://www.scworld.com/perspective/how-to-build-a-breach-ready-security-posture-without-the-enterprise-price-tag https://netragard.com/blog/what-is-penetration-testing/ Topic: Why Meta is destroying its engineering organization The titular essay: https://newsletter.pragmaticengineer.com/p/why-is-meta-destroying-its-engineering A very interesting analysis of what's going on inside big tech companies as they try to dogfood their own AI hype and tokenmaxx themselves into oblivion. There have been a LOT of stories on this, but this is the most comprehensive and enlightening. A few more are linked below. This is relevant to security, because heavier AI use appears to be linked to a much higher occurrence o
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Navigating Shadow AI in the Enterprise, Verizon's SECOND 2026 report, and the news - Ankita Gupta - ESW #464
22/06/2026 Durata: 01h37minInterview with Ankita Gupta, CEO of Akto How to Navigate Shadow AI Risk in the enterprise This week, we discuss AI governance in the enterprise, starting with the nuts and bolts of how to discover and understand shadow AI. Following that, we dive into what security and tech leaders should do next with this information: apply guardrails? Limit vendor options? Ankita has a wealth of experience and anecdotes to share here, from years of working with customers and seeing all the unexpected things that happen with AI in today's workplace. Segment Resources: Website: https://www.akto.io Book a Free Demo: https://www.akto.io/agentic-security-demo LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/akto-io YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@aktodotio This segment is sponsored by Akto. Visit https://securityweekly.com/akto to secure your AI agents before attackers do. Topic Segment: Verizon's Breach Impact Study The same team that delivers the DBIR every year gave us a bonus, based on over 70,000 insurance claims! Some of my
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Safe AI at scale, what happens after initial access, and the weekly enterprise news - Albert Estevez Polo, Shiva Pillay - ESW #463
15/06/2026 Durata: 01h31minInterview with Shiva Pillay from Veeam Safe AI at Scale AI investment is exploding, yet nearly 90% of enterprise initiatives fail because the data powering AI cannot be trusted. That's the uncomfortable truth the industry is facing right now. Safe AI at scale requires more than just great models—it demands trusted, governed, and recoverable data. This segment is sponsored by Veeam. Visit https://securityweekly.com/veeam to learn more about them! Segment resources: Veeam Launches New Data and AI Trust Maturity Model to Help Organizations Benchmark AI Readiness Topic: Sure, we know how initial access works, but what about lateral movement? A special topic segment where we're joined by Albert Estevez Polo, field CTO for Zero Networks (a community guest, not a podcast sponsor). Zero Networks just released some very interesting data on what attackers are doing after they gain access to victim's environments and how they're doing it. Segment Resources: Link to report page Weekly Enterprise Security News Final
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The State of AI in SecOps, the Unintended Consequences of Vulnmaxxing, and the News - Filip Stojkovski - ESW #462
08/06/2026 Durata: 01h37minInterview with Filip Stojkovski on the State of AI in SecOps Filip joins us to talk through the 2+ year rollercoaster that Security Operations tooling has been on since AI entered the chat. We discuss the AI SecOps market, which Filip closely tracks through his SecOps Unpacked project. We also discuss how most of the market has traditionally been focused on the "middle" of the process, which is effectively alert management. Where the conversation really gets interesting is shifting left to discuss building better quality detections. Segment Resources: Be sure to check out SecOps Unpacked - it has more than just vendor information: there are articles, frameworks, podcast episodes, research, and articles/thought leadership Topic: The Unintended Consequences of Vulnmaxxing We discuss my latest blog post where I share a theory that perhaps Project Glasswing is a clever exclusive freemium tier, where Anthropic is hoping to ensnare the world's largest producers of software into using its most expensive model to
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Helping defense's use of AI catch up with offense, cost of the vulnpocalypse, news - Evan Powell - ESW #461
01/06/2026 Durata: 01h37minInterview with Evan Powell - Generative and agentic AI are improving cyberattacks faster than they're improving cyber defenses. Offensive folks have been having the most luck with AI so far, which is further eroding any advantage defenders might have had. Evan Powell joins us to share some ideas on how defenders can get some benefits from AI as well, and why open source is important with this approach. Topic For this week's topic segment, we've got two very interesting data sources. The first is Anthropic's first update on Project Glasswing, where they're absolutely tearing through codebases with ultra premium Mythos tokens, but then hitting a human-shaped bottleneck as they attempt to validate all the findings. The second is the first report from Root Evidence, the latest startup from Jeremiah Grossman and Robert Hansen (aka RSnake), which aims to help organizations filter out all the vulnerabilities that don't matter. Where these two reports meet in the middle is my concern that the use of AI to scour every
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Visibility with EDR/MDR is still important, 'the basics' are impossible, and the news - Rob Allen - ESW #460
25/05/2026 Durata: 01h44minInterview with Rob Allen from Threatlocker This week, Rob Allen from Threatlocker is with us to discuss the importance of EDR and MDR visibility. We discuss some real world attacks and anecdotes where EDR was able to save the day when threats were missed by other controls. Topic: Do the basics, they said. Easier said than done. Guillaume and Adrian discuss the futility of attempting to do all the foundational work standards, best practices, and regulations expect of organizations. Adrian has given up. Fortunately, Guillaume has some excellent advice and hope to share on this front. The weekly enterprise news Finally, in the enterprise security news, a really interesting vibe check funding acquisitions the verizon DBIR we give a tutorial on how to leak AWS keys on github OH NEVERMIND, SOMEONE AT CISA ALREADY MADE THE TUTORIAL agents versus agents exploitbench the vulnpocalypse robot dogs are SO EASY to take out, we don't need to be too scared of them yet All that and more, on this episode of Enterprise Secur
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AI Has a data problem, cascading breaches, and the weekly news - Dimitri Sirota - ESW #459
18/05/2026 Durata: 01h36minInterview with Dimitri Sirota from BigID Most organizations think AI risk lives in the model – or the identity. It doesn't. It lives in the data. In this episode, BigID's CEO reframes the conversation: why legacy access controls are breaking down, why visibility into sensitive data is the missing foundation, and what it takes to govern humans and machines under a single, accountable framework. Segment Resources: BigID's Agent Access Management Guide BigID's podcast, CTRL + ALT + AI This Week's Topic: Cascading Breaches We're seeing more and more 3rd and 4th party attacks that chain through multiple layers of compromised tools and services. In this topic segment, we discuss the two main aspects of this trend: How we can stop the chain of breaches from a third party library, vendor, or service provider How this might get handled at the legal, contractual, and organizational levels We discuss two big recent examples: Sonicwall's 2025 breach of their cloud firewall configuration backup service The compromi
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The impact of Mythos and Florida Man, confidence gaps, phishing, & AI adoption - Chris Wallis, Deepen Desai, Erich Kron - ESW #458
11/05/2026 Durata: 01h39minThe Weekly Enterprise News This week, in the enterprise security news, Copy Fail The hits keep coming for CVE, NIST and NVD Cyber attacks on breathalyzers insurance carriers pulling support for AI Florida Man pleads guilty ignore the humanities at your own peril offense and defense don't scale the same is it okay to be left behind? scientists gave cocaine to salmon Mind the Gap: Confidence, AI, and the Future of Exposure Management Former ethical hacker, now founder and CEO of Intruder, Chris Wallis explores whether AI can bridge the divide between finding vulnerabilities and understanding real-world attack context as exploit windows continue to shrink. This conversation dives into the structural "confidence gap" uncovered in Intruder's 2026 Security Middle Child Report, where executive risk appetite is increasingly decoupled from front-line operational reality. Check out Intruder's Security Middle Child Report at https://securityweekly.com/intruderrsac. Modern Phishing Attacks Are Under Multi-Channel Siege
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Post Quantum Migration Struggles, AI Threats, and Modern Defenses - HD Moore, Ramin Farassat, Eyal Benishti, Daniel dos Santos, Bobby Ford - ESW #457
04/05/2026 Durata: 01h32minInterview with Daniel dos Santos: Post-Quantum Cryptography and the Risks No One Is Talking About Post-quantum cryptography (PQC) is quickly shifting from theory to inevitability. In this segment, Daniel dos Santos, VP of Research at Forescout, explains why PQC isn't the most immediate threat today—but still demands early attention as standards solidify and timelines accelerate. The discussion highlights overlooked risks beyond encrypted traffic, including digital signatures, firmware integrity, and blockchain systems. Daniel also emphasizes the real challenge: migration. While client-side adoption is already underway, organizations face major hurdles identifying and upgrading servers, legacy systems, and unmanaged assets like IoT and OT. The bottom line: PQC migration is unavoidable. Starting early—especially with crypto inventory and planning—will make the transition far less painful. RSAC Interview: Multi-Channel Impersonation: Why Legacy Controls Are Failing As social engineering expands past just email t
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Rethinking Security from the OS Up in the Age of AI and more RSAC 2026 Interviews - Karen Heart, Sachin Jade, Phil Calvin, Craig Sanderson, Travis Wong - ESW #456
27/04/2026 Durata: 01h35minRethinking Security from the OS Up in the Age of AI Karen Heart discusses a file-system–first approach to security, arguing that most modern attacks—including ransomware and supply chain compromises—succeed because they inherit user permissions and operate inside overly trusted system structures. She explains how limiting file access, socket (network) access, and privilege escalation at the operating system level can reduce entire classes of attacks. Rather than relying on reactive detection, her approach emphasizes immutable, allowlisted controls embedded close to the kernel layer, designed to prevent both data exfiltration and malicious code execution at the source. The conversation also explores how AI agents and contractors expand the attack surface, reinforcing the need for strict isolation, backup protection, and deterministic system boundaries. Segment Resources: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Zero-Day-Secure/Karen-Heart/9781968865078 The New Era of DNS Resilience: Breaking down the newly fin
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Making AI actually work in the enterprise and more RSAC Conference 2026 interviews - Camellia Chan, Aamir Lakhani, Jim Spignardo, Jody Brazil, Ely Abramovitch - ESW #455
20/04/2026 Durata: 01h40minInterview with Jim Spignardo What does it take to build AI workflows that work? Why do so many fail? Jim isn't a typical ESW guest. I think it's essential for security folks to regularly step outside the security bubble and understand other perspectives and mindsets. That's what we're doing today with Jim. He specializes in building custom AI architecture and workflows for his clients. We discuss the state of AI in the enterprise and why so many of these efforts fail. We'll discuss the elements of AI success and whether security plays a role in helping AI efforts succeed or contribute to failures. Segment Resources: https://www.proarch.com/ Cowork vs Cowork - Why Microsoft 365 Copilot Cowork Is the One Built for Enterprise RSAC Exec Interviews, Part 1 Trends Revealed in Fortinet's FortiGuard Labs 2026 Global Threat Landscape Report Fortinet's Global Director of Threat Intelligence and Adversarial AI Research explores the trends revealed in the latest Global Threat Landscape Report from FortiGuard Labs, inc
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We catch up on the news, including AI vuln hunting; also more RSAC interviews! - John Wilson, Mark Lambert, Georges Bossert, Samuel Hassine - ESW #454
13/04/2026 Durata: 01h37minSegment 1: We cover the weekly enterprise news! Segment 2: RSAC interviews from ArmorCode and Filigran ArmorCode: AI Exposure Management and Governing Shadow AI AI is moving faster than most governance models can keep up. As organizations race to adopt new AI tools, developer workflows, agents and MCP servers, security leaders must enable innovation without losing control over risk, accountability and oversight. In this segment, ArmorCode will discuss its new AI Exposure Management (AIEM) solution, as part of the ArmorCode Agentic AI Platform. ArmorCode will highlight how AIEM gives enterprises clearer visibility into where AI is being used, who owns it and the potential risks it introduces across heterogeneous environments. By turning AI usage and signals from existing security and IT systems into governed, auditable outcomes, AIEM helps organizations reduce shadow AI risk, assign accountability and accelerate AI adoption with stronger control and board-ready governance. ArmorCode will also share findings fr
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Battling payment fraud with tokenization and executive interviews from RSAC 2026 - Jimmy White, Thyaga Vasudevan, Brian Oh, Mickey Bresman, Ashish Jain - ESW #453
06/04/2026 Durata: 01h45minInterview with Brian Oh from FIS Global Merchant-Specific Tokenization: Making Embedded Finance More Fraud-Resistant Payment fraud has not gone away. It has evolved into a largely social engineering-driven problem that increasingly lands on security leaders' desks. In this episode, Brian Oh from FIS Global explains how merchant-specific tokenization and virtual cards work, why embedded finance raises the stakes, and how approaches like behavioral biometrics and tokenized payments can reduce fraud while keeping checkout experiences fast and seamless. Segment Resources: FIS Global - The Future of Embedded Finance PYMNTS Article - FDIC Support Clears a Path for Tokenized Deposits to Scale FIS Global Blog - How behavioral biometrics are leading the way in secure banking and fraud defense for Digital One™ Flex clients FIS Global Blog - Inside Flex's Advanced Fraud Defense: What Tech Leaders Need to Know Interviews with Mickey Bresman from Semperis and Ashish Jain from OneSpan The Making of Midnight in the Wa
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Oops, all Interviews: Switching to Cyber, CISO Reflections, and the State of TPCRM - Alexandre Sieira, Lenny Zeltser, Helen Patton - ESW #452
30/03/2026 Durata: 01h50minInterview with Helen Patton about her new book, Switching to Cyber Helen joins us to discuss her second book, "Switching to Cyber." Her first book discussed strategies for handling various stages of the cybersecurity career, while this one, co-written with Josiah Dykstra, provides a guide for switching to cyber mid-career. Check out her book, Switching to Cyber: The Mid-Career Guide to Launching a Cybersecurity Career: on Amazon on Barnes & Noble and on the publisher's website Interview with Lenny Zeltzer: Reflections on Being a CISO After a cybersecurity career in various roles, doing everything from product management to malware analysis training, Lenny spent 6 years in the CISO seat at Axonius, from near the inception of the company through its growth from its modest Series A stage in 2019 to the present, with nearly a billion in funding today. Lenny's CISO Essays: What Being a CISO Taught Me About Security Leadership As a CISO, Are You a Builder, Fixer, or Scale Operator? The Chief Insecurity Off
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Can AI help critical infrastructure, the state of the cyber market, and weekly news - Mike Privette, Kara Sprague - ESW #451
23/03/2026 Durata: 01h42minInterview with Kara Sprague - The AI Fix for Infrastructure's Oldest Security Risks. Critical infrastructure, often built on decades-old systems and legacy code, remains vulnerable to cyberattacks. From pipelines and energy grids to transportation networks, we break down where critical infrastructure is vulnerable and how AI could potentially help strengthen defenses. Interview with Mike Privette - The State of the Cybersecurity Market Here at ESW, we use Mike Privette's Security, Funded newsletter to prepare for every news segment. His newsletter covers the latest fundings, acquisitions, public market performance, layoffs, and other pertinent market details every week. We particularly enjoy the weekly Vibe Check. In this interview, he joins us for the third year in a row, to discuss the most interesting insights from his annual State of Market Report. Post recording Adrian here: Whooooo, so this conversation was SO good, I decided to punt the news segment in favor of a part 2 with Mike, so enjoy! Also, thou